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Separation for anyone, whether it‘s family, friend, or collaborator, can be difficult. Unification when previously torn apart is rewarding. The Divided Together podcast reveals topics that involve separation and unification related to the border featuring people with direct experience and knowledge. In this series, we’ll be highlighting the impacts the border has had on the Kumeyaay and the land they’ve inhabited for thousands of years, how scientists and geographers have collaborated across the border to help preserve and study the land, the various land use practices the Kumeyaay have used throughout time and how altering them has created an alarming impact, and the history and impact of border enforcement.
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Thursday Sep 23, 2021
Divided Together Season 1 Episode 1: Kumeyaay Nation Divided by the Border
Thursday Sep 23, 2021
Thursday Sep 23, 2021
This is the ancestral land of the First People, the Kumeyaay.
When the border between the United States and Mexico was established in the 1850s, the land of the Kumeyaay was split between the new American state of California and northern Mexico. People and culture were immediately divided. In the over 170 years since, the effects on the culture and land management have become evident.
In this first episode of Divided Together, we’ll hear from a respected member of the Kumeyaay Nation, Ana Gloria “Martha” Rodriguez. For nearly 20 years, Martha and her family have been important stakeholders for California State Parks in San Diego County, often sharing cultural knowledge and providing invaluable feedback on proposed projects. She and her husband, Dr. Stanley Rodriguez, participated in our Fiesta del Rio event for ten years. They both run the Kosay Kumeyaay Market in Old Town San Diego State Historic Park. We’ll hear how this border has had an impact on the people and the land over the centuries, and we’ll hear what Martha is doing to help prevent further erosion and maintain the Kumeyaay way of life and spirit.
Divided Together is a California State Parks podcast series for Border Field State Park, brought to you by California State Parks Foundation, Parks California, and the generosity of an anonymous donor.
Music Credits:
- Lobo Lobo by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License. (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/, transformed for time)
- An Oddly Formal Dance by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial License. (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/, transformed for time)
- Lakeside Path by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial License. (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/)
- Lo Margin by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License. (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/)
Anne Marie Tipton: Executive Producer and Host
Adam Greenfield: Podcast Producer and Engineer
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